After reading,studying,trial and error, I settled on somwhere between ospt and ospw. I was SO SURE I didn't need that Clarisonic! Well, after reading Loreli's informative posts,and research plus the opportunity to get the Mia for a very reasonable price,I jumped in and lo and behold the improvement has been nothing short of amazing.I also had seen the creator on Qvc many many times and figured his skin looked great,something must be happening. But to be honest,it was Loreli's info that really was my main reaso to give in.So to you Loreli,and everyone else I thank you for your input,time and willingness to share.